It is ridiculous that when adding a profile way back in the 11th century it defaults to being living. Surely any profile that is added to the tree who's immediate relatives are all dated prior to 1880 should be default deceased not living.
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Jim Sieks Since the oldest living person is approximately 114 years old, add ~120 years to the entry date
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Terry Jackson (Switzer) @Bjorn if you are 'adding' a profile from another profile they already have the dates of the original profile. They don't need to 'guess' that's the point of this request. if I am adding a father to someone born in 1100 there is no guessing involved they should be by default deceased.
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Bjørn P. Brox Isn't this a chicken and egg problem: Before you enter a date on th profile how can Geni guess what it would be?
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Terry Jackson (Switzer) I may have chosen too recent a cut off date for adding children but the point is if a profile is being added to a person (dates already on) who died before 1880 (as an example but the date could be modified for safety) then they should be default deceased not default living because at that point of the tree someone is more likely to be deceased than living. If Geni felt more comfortable with a 1800 cut off then there is no way this wouldn't work. I'm not asking them to 'guess' anything. You click on yellow arrows of someone who died in 1800 even a child of that person is going to be deceased.
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賈寶玉(二) Chia Pao-yü how about in the setting, or in tree preference, one can (temporarily) opt to "decease" any profile to be added. i've been copying over hundreds of names from a document one by one, and if i didn't have to click that "deceased" dot every single time (and then click on the SAVE button), i could have done things much faster: typing in the first name, and ENTER.
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Dan Cornett Take the 'long' view:
1) If birth date implies age >120, mark deceased. (this can easily be 'crawled' each day or month! - birth date is present).
2) if any descendant is age>120, mark deceased. (birth date not required)
3) Adding an ancestor to a deceased person should default to deceased (I know, that is sadly not always the actual case, but the default should be in that direction).
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Lo I know many times when I added profiles, they did default to deceased. I always added from Tree View. Suspect it was siblings or children being added when I experienced it (since sometimes I had to change to Living). Perhaps they need to tweak their criteria a bit.
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Marilyn Jean Horn I agree!
First, Geni should be MUCH smarter about this. In most cases, new profiles are added as the spouse, parent, sibling, or child of someone who is already in the database. Therefore, it would be childr's play to for Geni to make an appropriate guess most of the time.
Second, this is a GENEALOGY program, not a social media program. By definition, the overwhelming majority of profiles are for people who are deceased.
Third, the person who adds the profile will always have the right to change it later, even if her or she has a Basic account, but other users with Basic accounts (which would account for a large percentage of Geni users) will not be able to correct it, making the database far less accurate than it could be.
Fourth, even if you have right type of account to correct this setting on profiles that were submitted by others, you may not be able to anyway because in many cases profiles default to Private.
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Lo I am wondering - are Geni's defaults for Living Status different for Profiles added from Tree View (using the yellow arrows) versus from the Profile, Add Family?
When you added a profile born more than 100 years ago or so - was it as a sibling, spouse, or parent of a deceased profile? When the answer to this was 'yes' and I added from Tree View, it always defaulted to deceased.
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Edward John Bennett Jr. this site is disappointing to me was hoping to find useful information
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Maven B. Helms NEVER add Family from inside the Profile, unless they are contemporary with you. Otherwise you'll spend a lot of your time hunting zombies.
What Geni COULD do about it is include the option to mark "Deceased" in the Profile view.
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Jim Henderson Terry Jackson (Switzer) suggested marking new people as deceased by default. But this would make them public until corrected.
I think it would be safer for people to be marked as living, unless the person from whom the new person was made is older than 150 or some age like that.
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Terry Jackson (Switzer) If you are adding a profile as the spouse or or parent of or even the child of someone born in 1700 or earlier they should be deceased by default. Acutally it would even make sense that unless a date is given to clarify living or deceased the profile should be marked as deceased as default and then if they are living they will find themselves (or their relaives will) and put it right whereas if a long time dead person is marked living they are not around to put this right! We have zombie hunting by curators but this could go on and on if the underlaying problem is not resolved.
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