I found a message under recent activity "First Lastname merged a duplicate profile for Johanna Lastname". I now have a tree with many privates. I read that unmerge is not possible. Can I ask a Pro to split the tree? And is it really possible to just merge a tree into someone else's or did I have to set a disable merge option somewhere?
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Oton Zagorc Anyone can merge public profiles, and curators can also merge private profiles. It is a policy of Geni that duplicate profiles be merged, and you can't prevent that. A merge CAN be undone. Just ask curators for help in this thread - https://www.geni.com/discussions/156925?msg=1168759
Be sure to include links to the profile(s) in question.
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Carole Anne (Smith) Ashworth Just putting my two-penneth in here, for what it's worth.
Oton, I'm glad you posted that re-direction link to the discussion about this sort of thing, because as well as I.K.Fikkert, I've noticed a number of other members posting similar queries here. But I must add - you would think wouldn't you? that it would be expected courtesy, before a tree merge takes place, for the person who wants to perform the merge to at least contact the researcher whose tree they want to make changes to. That would be better etiquette/netiquette than for the researcher to by chance notice it after the event took place. Just saying....
And I.K.Fikkert ... hope you got it sorted.
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I.K. Fikkert I read more about this world tree, and the Geni/MyHeritage/FamilySearch models.Yet, I agree with Carole Anne, I'd expect a message before a merge. And even a reject/accept, especially because there is also the concept of an unconnected tree. And I'd also expect a message when my unconnected tree would transform into a connected tree. Yet, I will ask for a unmerge, now I understand what is happening.
There 2 other issues I don't understand:
1) how can I see whether profile in my tree are connected?
2) I am missing a 'my view' of the world tree. If each individual profile in my tree is connected to the world tree, and the world tree could complete/merge in the profile of for example the other 16 children (and their descendants!) of my great grand parent, that does not mean I'm interested in all 16 children. Perhaps one or two are of interest. Is such a view on the truth possible? Isn't that what my tree could offer by replacing/connecting individuals' information by the 'connected copy'?
I would also like to experiment how well the Geni model works, by just entering a new tree with a few relatives. But can I connect such a rudimentary tree to the world tree?
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Oton Zagorc 1) When you open any profile in Geni you will see immediately below the name one or the other of these messages:
You are connected to soandso
or
No path found to soandso.
The first tells you that you and soandso are in the same tree. It doesn't mean that Geni will always be able to find the actual relationship path between the two, sometimes the distance is just too big.
2) The "View Your Profile" option displays the list of your relatives (click on View All to expand the list). Click on Edit (under View All) and you can hide any relative from your view. This only affects your view, the profiles remain in the tree and other users can see them.
A new user tree is usualy associated with a unique email address. If you have a spare email you can use it to join Geni and build a separate tree.
There is also a new option in the Research menu called Create a Branch which can be used to crate a new standalone tree. But I'm not sure if it's been released for basic users yet.Otherwise, a new tree is usually created by attaching a profile somewhere and then disconnecting it. But this feature is not available to basic users.
Some more on trees and merges. I said previously that anyone can merge public profiles. To be precise, this only applies if the two profiles are in the same tree. If the profiles are in different trees (ex. World Tree and a standalone tree, or 2 standalone trees) a manager from each tree must approve the merge. Curators have recently been given green light to merge standalone trees into the World Tree.
Also, the approach "my tree / your tree" is not what Geni is about. Geni is a collaborative project and aims to build one "our tree". This for me and millions of other users is its main attraction - by merging and connecting with branches others have built we expand the tree and discover ever new distant (or not so distant) relatives.
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Dan Cornett I.K. Fikkert:
With a 'connected' World Family Tree, the way to manage what you view at any time is by changing your preferences, particularly the "Tree View" preferences. There are quite a few options therein, including the number of generations of ancestors and descendants you wish to view at one time, as well as whether you want to only view direct ancestors only vs. all the siblings & spouses of those siblings of the direct ancestors.
As you change the "focus person" of the Tree View, you will see different sub-sets of all the "connected" profiles -- based on the preferences (which can be quickly changed at any time to "view things differently" -- or more clearly!).
The intent of a single, shared, World Family Tree is that information you have on "shared" ancestors gets combined with the information which others may have on those same ancestors, so that the single resulting profile contains the best-known information about that person. In addition, you don't have to duplicate the work which others have already done on those "shared" ancestors; you can simply add to it -- or correct it based on new or additional documentation which can be attached to the profiles.
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Oton Zagorc This post of mine 2 days ago didn't go through. Here it is again:
1) When you open any profile in Geni you will see immediately below the name one or the other of these messages:
You are connected to soandso
or
No path found to soandso.
The first tells you that you and soandso are in the same tree. It doesn't mean that Geni will always be able to find the actual relationship path between the two, sometimes the distance is just too big.
2) The "View Your Profile" option displays the list of your relatives (click on View All to expand the list). Click on Edit (under View All) and you can hide any relative from your view. This only affects your view, the profiles remain in the tree and other users can see them.
A new user tree is usualy associated with a unique email address. If you have a spare email you can use it to join Geni and build a separate tree.
There is also a new option in the Research menu called Create a Branch which can be used to crate a new standalone tree. But I'm not sure if it's been released for basic users yet.Otherwise, a new tree is usually created by attaching a profile somewhere and then disconnecting it. But this feature is not available to basic users.
Some more on trees and merges. I said previously that anyone can merge public profiles. To be precise, this only applies if the two profiles are in the same tree. If the profiles are in different trees (ex. World Tree and a standalone tree, or 2 standalone trees) a manager from each tree must approve the merge. Curators have recently been given green light to merge standalone trees into the World Tree.
Also, the approach "my tree / your tree" is not what Geni is about. Geni is a collaborative project and aims to build one "our tree". This for me and millions of other users is its main attraction - by merging and connecting with branches others have built we expand the tree and discover ever new distant (or not so distant) relatives.
Edited by Oton Zagorc
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