One other person, who is not the manager of my profiles, edits the names of these persons in the way what is not correct. These ghanges are not it the list of 'Data conflicts'. So I have to check all the time the activity of her. If I don't do this, i do not find these changes but only accidently. I have asked the person to honor my way, in vain. If she would be the manager, I could see what she is doing with my profiles.
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Jeff, Geni Curator When it comes to naming in a shared tree, collaboration can sometimes be difficult. Geni does provide options for display preferences to try and allow people to get the best view for them. https://www.geni.com/account_settings/name_preferences For example, some people like the last name in CAPS. We discourage formatting like this that forces everyone in the tree to view it a certain way. But there are display options to format names for a preference, so we encourage that if it can resolve the conflict. We also want users to use the proper fields for their intended use.
In general, I'd say the profile manager has preference, but if the manager is going against common standards and guidelines on Geni in a shared tree, like a common ancestor, then I would side with the other person. It doesn't take much in escalation for someone to create a duplicate and be a manager as well. We need to work with the guidelines if possible (https://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Naming_Conventions). So not sure if that answers your question or if it's something completely different. If you have a specific example, Curators can review it and if it's a public profile, we can even lock name fields if necessary.
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Jeff, Geni Curator Side note: I see you have your name as LH, which I presume is for improved privacy. While hiding your first and last name to other Geni users is not an option under privacy: https://www.geni.com/account_settings/profile_privacy I just wanted to let you know that if the concern is public visibility (search engines, like Google), you can turn that off under your permission settings: https://www.geni.com/account_settings/permissions by unchecking "Let the public search for me (profile privacy settings apply)". It also applies to discussions that are public, making your name <private> for unauthenticated users.
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LH The problem is the Finnish name practice, which differences from the other countries (I do not know ). In Finland women who are married do not use their husbands name until the 19. century. So, officially women have their father's name all the life. Also historically it is very wrong to use husband's name until from about beginning of the 19 th. That is why I do not put husband's name to 'Last name ' and also no empty. Almost all Finnish Geni users do not know this, and I do not care about their profiles. I mean that they can do as they want to. How ever I want to use the officially and historically right way with my own profiles ( = I am the first manager) . All other user have honoured my way but this one Maybe it would be better to write husband's name as ' nick names'. I think, this wrong last name manage spoils Geni.
Lea Hytönen
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Jeff, Geni Curator That is similar to my French / Canadian names. Usually I will put include a variation with husband's surname in the AKA section, so that it works for search results and matching (in case someone doesn't know the wife's birth name). I agree that we want to keep it historically accurate, so if they never used the husbands surname, then we shouldn't use it in the "last name" field.
You could point this out in the Geni Guidelines: https://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Naming_Conventions#Main_Principles
- The concept of a "maiden name" or "birth name" (that is, family surname of women prior to marriage) is culturally and historically specific and not universal. Most curators agree that the birth name field should be used for birth names or original names. In most historical profiles, especially in those prior to the 1600s, the Last Name should be the same as Maiden Name. Please do not put married (i.e., husbands') names under Last Name field for women in pre-1700 Europe or other locations where it's historically inaccurate. Currently, the use of Last Name as married name for women is quite controversial and is used primarily for more recent (e.g., Colonial American) profiles but should only be used in periods and locations that such things existed. Please remember not to force your own cultural conventions on the past or on other cultures.
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Jeff, Geni Curator And #2 here our Standard's project: https://www.geni.com/projects/Coalition-for-the-Standardization-of-Geni-Naming-Conventions/1357
- In cases where a married woman kept her maiden name, that should be her last name as well.
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LH I have written to the local curator, who ealier said same as you. Then he asked the other manager, who changed my names, not to do so. It helped. Now this other one do the same and I wrote to the same Finnish Curator Lasse Söderström . He has not answered and I thought he does not care or I am wrong. It takes too much time to correct these names. I think we need more rules to know how to manage with names and 'nick names,.
Thank You
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