Most of my DNA matching reports are WRONG. Many of the connecting paths use links by marriage, links through my HUSBAND(!) several in-law links, so they are not blood/ DNA links, so they are not DNA matches. My Father's Y DNA test (Hugh Lloyd Turner) is supposed to match a female (Linda Hennes) autosomal test, etc. etc. etc. etc. I have reported this before but it is a HUGE problem and means I don't believe any of your Match information for my family. Another one today shows a path from my maternal first cousin (Benjamin William Anderson, Jr.) through my HUSBAND and his long family tree, with some marriages thrown into the path, linking to my father's family and ending up with Robert Lucious Ritter. This makes no sense. If my maternal first cousin and I link to Mr. Ritter with a DNA match, that might be true - but my husband and my father and all their ancestors are not related to each other! This is a constant problem. I am still hopeful you will look at this seriously and fix it. I want to know my DNA matches. I want to know my paper trail matches. If someone is both a DNA match and a paper trail match, that is fine - but your current system of showing links is so horribly erroneous that I don't believe any of your match information or anything else. PLEASE FIX THIS. My father died before he did the autosomal tests, so I would very much hope you can fix your problems so we can use and rely on some match information for him using his Y and mt DNA tests. He has very few matches for his Family Tree test information.
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Carolyn DeWolfe (Turner) The match you notified me about - said I and my cousin Benjamin William Anderson match Robert Lucious Ritter and another one said my father's Y DNA (Hugh Lloyd Turner) matches Linda Hennes' au DNA. Did you read my post. Have you looked at how many complaints are listed in the messages on this subject? Please look again at this issue. You all have got to straighten this out.
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Dear Carolyn,
Linda Hennes is your husband's fourth great uncle's wife's husband's sister's husband's first cousin 6 times removed's husband's first cousin twice removed.
View the full relationship path:
https://www.geni.com/c/7db2bf7564f96c97433e6fd5eb511a e718fdf6f1 View all of your recent relationship paths:
Kind regards,
https://www.geni.com/c/7db2bf7564f96c97433e6fd5eb511a e718fdf6f1?u=%2Fpaths - The Geni Team
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Bjørn P. Brox DNA matches it not about processing current paths in your tree, it is about helping you to find one.
What you get is a hint that the DNA shows that it is a bloodline connection, very often not yet found. If the current connection does not confirm this it tells you that more research has to be done to find it.
If relatives has taken a DNA test that is added to the world tree you might be able to triangulate where the missing link might be, - does it go through your father or mothers line etc. -
Carolyn DeWolfe (Turner) Reread your posts. When you inform customers that a DNA link exists between them and someone else, you are saying there is a blood/DNA link. Then, when you show a path, you are telling your customers that a link exists between two people who have done DNA tests when in fact the path includes non-blood links. I have "matches" who are taking your "paths" to be literal truth when they are not. Look at the complaints from others who have the same problem with your reporting method. If you intend these to be hints then label them HINTS, not paths. Maybe the language is the problem. Even your reply to my complaint is unclear and misleading. Let me detail one of my complaints. I administer several DNA tests and have them downloaded to my GENI tree.
FIRST EXAMPLE: On September 10, 2016, you informed me that I have a DNA match with Robert Lucious Ritter. "Carolyn DeWolfe (Turner) has a DNA match with Robert Lucious Ritter." Then on the same day you informed me that my maternal first cousin, whose DNA tests I manage, Benjamin William Anderson, Jr., has a DNA match with Mr. Ritter. "Benjamin William Anderson, Jr. has a DNA match with Robert Lucious Ritter " NOTE: MR. RITTER IS ON BEN'S DNA MATCH LIST, BUT HE IS NOT ON MY LIST OF DNA MATCHES.
Even so, you outline a "path" for me. The path you show for Ben is the same one you have for me, as the tree is in my name. I can't find a specific path for Ben. When I look at the "path" between me or my cousin and Mr. Ritter, you take us FIRST to my HUSBAND. I know my husband and I are not blood related. I checked it on GEDmatch a couple of years ago out of curiosity. We grew up on opposite areas of the US so there is no supposition of an overlap between my husband's family with my cousin or me. Then your path leads to marriage links - again not blood/ DNA links. Then you go far back in my husband's ancestry before coming back to Mr. Ritter. Mr. Ritter now thinks he is related to my husband and wants to add my husband's lineage to his tree. My husband's DNA is on GENI too and does not match Mr. Ritter, but your presentation of the "path" does not show that. Your intentions may be to give hints, but the way you say that to us is that the blood/DNA link is in fact true. How can that be true when you use marriage links in your path? You are misleading lots of your customers and messing up their trees!!!! If I have a link to Mr Ritter (but I doubt that as he isn't on my match list) and if my maternal first cousin has a link to Mr. Ritter, I would know where to start to look for a link, - on my mother's side of the family - but your path takes us off track to my husband and more marriage links that have nothing to do with Mr. Ritter. Here is a SECOND example of a match problem: You informed me of a match between my father, Hugh Lloyd Turner, and Linda Hennes with a match between my father's Y DNA test and her Autosomal test. My Dad did the Y and mt DNA tests but died before doing the autosomal tests. His Y test and Linda's Au test can't show a DNA match - but you say it does. THIRD, you said you would accept Y DNA tests when other sites won't but my father's Y matches are now said to be hints about possible matches "This project is a meeting place for users who share the R-L21 Y-DNA haplogroup, which means they are related along their paternal lines. Users in this group may want to share their family trees with each other to find overlaps and merge duplicate profiles in order to join or expand the World Family Tree and discover new relatives." That is useless to me.
FOURTH: When you show DNA matches, and call them matches, they are supposed to be matches, not hints!
When you announced that you would accept the results of the DNA tests from Family Tree and others, it seemed like an exciting chance to compare DNA to others in a new database beyond the database of the testing company. We already get paper trail hints and matches and links from your site and others. What we need and want is confirmation of actual DNA lines to the ancestors. We have actually found some new and interesting links through the DNA links on GENI so I would like to not have to delete my DNA information from you site.
COULD YOU PLEASE RETHINK THE LABELS YOU PUT ON THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE US. GIVE US ACTUAL DNA MATCHES BASED ON DNA AND NOT ON AN IMAGINARY PATH. MAKE SURE YOUR LANGUAGE IS ACCURATE SO WE ARE NOT MISLED INTO THINKING MATCHES ARE REAL DNA BASED WHEN THEY ARE INSTEAD BASED ON TOTALLY INCORRECT LINKS. There is a need for sites to cross over from the testing sites to the family sites and coordinate the information - but your present system of doing this is so misleading it is a disservice instead of a step forward. I hope you take this seriously and make changes. PLEASE CONSIDER MY SUGGESTION THAT THIS MAY BE A LANGUAGE PROBLEM. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT YOUR CUSTOMERS' GOAL IS CONFIRMED DNA MATCHING WHILE YOUR GOAL MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE. If so, please clarify what service it is that you are offering your customers. Otherwise you will loose customers and we will loose a potentially very helpful service.
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SUSAN WHITTEN i agree with caroline de wolf. i have the same problem. these people are not dna links when you have to go through 25 people on a path. yet the dna match says, for example, 3rd cousin 2x removed. there is something terribly wrong here.
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Jeff, Geni Curator The relationship path displayed / calculated by Geni has nothing to do with your DNA submission. You can find your relationship between anyone connected to the world tree or your tree, DNA or not. Here is my relationship to movie star Chris Pratt, neither of us have DNA attached. https://geni.com/zBf4J
You're confusing an algorithm for a relationship path within the existing tree with DNA matching. When you click on the person's profile, it's just showing you a relationship calculation in the tree, not anything having to do with DNA.
Autosomal DNA does not show you a path, Y & Mt DNA can only indicate a direct blood relation via the paternal or maternal line. What you're seeing as a relationship is the path in the existing tree, but the DNA is telling you that the person is biologically related to you. I expect this is the type of discovery we hope for...
Find the biological connection and make that relationship in the tree and a new calculated path may be seen. You're likely related to people in more than one way - Geni just shows you one path.
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Rhian Marie Geleick My suspicions that your D>NA matches ar rubbish, nearly all are supposed to be 2nd or 3rd cousins but have lived on different continents for several hundred years and have no connection except the tortuous relationship paths,.
Yesterday I was given another DNA match to someone who has a different Y DNA and mt DNA, not even similar groups, he has not taken an at test so cannot match with me that way, and he is one of the numerous idiots who expect results without adding a tree, or even saying where in the world he is. I have given up chasing those that cannot be bothered and as it seems he has no DNA match with me at all I am giving up with checking any results you send.
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